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03-26-2006, 07:03 PM
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S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
There's a pretty damning appraisal of the S&P 500 index here:
http://www.slate.com/?id=2068724
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For decades, investors have regarded the highly diversified Standard & Poor's 500 as a safe place in which to plow long-term investments. For most of the '90s, Americans were hectored to invest their money in S&P 500 index funds. Champions of the S&P 500 boasted incessantly about how S&P index funds crushed most mutual funds and stock pickers, all while charging lower management fees. But in the past two years, the safe S&P 500 has proved to be even more dangerous than the rest of the market. While the Dow is off 26.6 percent from its 2000 peak, the S&P 500 is off a whopping 40.6 percent.
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F*ckedGoogle goes even further, and claims:
http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/fuckedgo...irman_adm.html
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the S&P committee has an almost PERFECT track record of adding stocks at the very peak of their valuation, only to see them crash shortly afterwards. A record that is actually so bad that it would statistically have to be intentional- precisely as if they were helping to bail out brokerages and funds who had positions in various overpriced stocks that needed to be quickly unloaded into the hands of the "dumb money" crowd
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Pretty damning claims, but is this just investor bitterness?
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03-27-2006, 03:57 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
S and P are for people who don't want to take risks. That's what the index is for. You don't want to take chances with research so you use an index that does it for you. As with any index, you need to ask if someone is playing it for you.
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04-06-2006, 10:01 AM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
S&P are saving the traders their shirts and that's no secret. GOOG isn't a good buy at present. Better to sell than hold and that's what S&P have allowed them to do.
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04-12-2006, 11:02 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
I don't know if the S&P is a great or safe buy or not, but them buying into Google stock when it's an obivous bubble doesn't really suggest they have their investors interests at stake.
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04-14-2006, 02:51 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
So much of this depends on what kind of risk you care to incur? If you are young and not touching the stuff for a while, you can easily sit tight when the S&P index is down, because in the long run it will do well. As a matter of fact, it gives greater opportunity to buy cheaper shares.
This is the most basic principle of investing but may be the hardest for the individual investor to stick to. Human nature tells us when something is going down to get out and when something is going up to get in.
In sound investing, the opposite is true. If what your in is quality, then that's the time not only to stay in but to buy more. In the long run you'll be much better off.
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04-18-2006, 10:52 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
I don't know if I would ever invest along an index line. Seems like a fool's bet to me. It is interesting though that they often see new additions crash after joining.
Guess this puts me off ever getting Google since I keep procastinating.
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04-20-2006, 02:40 AM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
You would think that when a stock goes into an index fund the price would go up because since index funds have to buy the stock, the demand is greater than the supply. But if I could figure the market out, I'd be rich.
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04-20-2006, 09:56 AM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
Google stock is still doing okay - for the time being. But wait and see what happens over the next two financial reports over this year, and expect to see a climb down.
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04-20-2006, 09:06 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
Google is trading at 80 times earnings. Does this scare anyone else or only me?
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04-21-2006, 12:25 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
It doesn't scare me because I've not bought into the company but I agree its a major sign of weakness. Last nights earnings report seems to have stoked up the hype again and the stock has even grown 20% since S&P bought into GOOG.
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04-22-2006, 07:59 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
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Originally Posted by Palm
It doesn't scare me because I've not bought into the company but I agree its a major sign of weakness. Last nights earnings report seems to have stoked up the hype again and the stock has even grown 20% since S&P bought into GOOG.
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...Which scares me even more . A good indicator is when I invest. As long as I don't invest in GOOG it will continue to go up. The minute Ibuy some, it will crash.
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04-29-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
Go on, buy some - you know you want to.
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04-30-2006, 04:48 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
If I had the money I probably would - and then the crash would begin. And I wouldn't want to do that to the rest of the Google stockolders.
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06-15-2006, 06:16 PM
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Re: S&P 500 - a dangerous investment?
I don't think there is anything wrong with buying, the only thing is that you have to watch closely for signs of the market turning.
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